Thursday, February 26, 2009

Speak Out Spew Off... 

This is still one of my all-time favorite images of Lambeau Field. Taken by Bruce Cantrall during the Packers last playoff victory, a 42-20 win over the Seattle Seahawks. Thanks again to Bruce Cantrall for taking this awesome panoramic picture during the game and for sending us this image last year to display back then, and now again at Packer Palace. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...

BeerKid - Always Pack 4 Life!


Nice analysis of the 5th, 6th, and 7th round picks. Does anybody out there have any idea how Thompson stacks up to other teams' similar draft picks? I mean, it's easy to see he hasn't found a 5th round Pro Bowler. But if every other team only had 2 guys in 4 years that even made the roster, that might not be too bad.

I'm too damn lazy to look it up, myself. So I now throw the request out to other faithful Packer Palace readers: Go look up other teams late round drafts and see how we compare.


Hey Ruppert, it's not that TT can't find a late round draft pick (page down a few times to see the chart) who can make the team, it's about finding starters, then finding pro bowlers that can contribute to a championship team. It's a tough business, 7th round pick WR Donald Driver took 4 years to becomes a decent player for example. Here's a link that is interesting - NFL Draft: Late Round Finds vs. Undrafted Gems from Topher Dean - For Packers, it shows 5th round pick Aaron Kampman, undrafted S Atari Bigby and DL Cullen Jenkins. One might say that GM Mike Sherman's late round draft picks (Kampman, C Scott Wells, DL Corey Williams, LB Hunter Hillenmeyer (Duh Bears) fare better than Thompson's.  BK

Wow... very eye opening stuff! None of his players have worked out!!!!! Thompson is about to RAPE PACKER fans!


Let's see a GM with some fire!! I miss the season already and I'm just a spectator/Fan. We need players that can't wait to get out there and make a difference! Ted, this is TitleTown... not Oakland! Let's see some high quality players now!

Fan #29

As dismal as you might think Thompson's draft record is, I challenge you to find a GM who has done significantly better. Nine players out of 23 late round picks is not that bad.

Scott S

Hey Scott S, maybe... TT knows how to provide depth to a team without any, but those "depth" players struggle to become full-time starters when called upon. Granted, other teams may fare better or worse, it's become common knowledge to the point of parody that TT wants to accumulate every late round draft pick because he's some kind of genius with those picks... A GM needs to get the best players from all sources, draft, street, free and top-flight free agents. Concentrating one particular thing leaves your team below .500, you're supposed to be building a championship team, not fielding a nearly-competitive one.  BK

I'm back... just thought you should know!

Bobby O'Shea

Hey Bobby, welcome back and I see you like either Orakpo or Raji for the Packers in the draft... I wonder if TT has his eyes on one of the OT's instead.  BK

In reply to the BeerScout, I wanted to know who the Packer fan was. And it was a fluke to even see him when I clicked a zoom view of the guy at the podium. Here I thought it could have been a real person, only to find out it was another dam politician. Yeesh - I bought a new mouse soon after that day.


Quoth Lombardi...

   "A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."

You're A Great Football Fan... If 

  • You've worn the same shirt on Sundays for seven years.
  • You have a tattoo of your team logo.
  • You met your wife when she was selling hotdogs at the stadium.
  • Your wife saw your marriage proposal on the stadium scoreboard.
  • You said your wedding vows while watching a football game out of the corner of your eye.
  • You did the end zone hustle at your wedding reception.
  • Your wedding colors were the same as your team colors.
  • You've offered to post bail for a football player.
  • You dream of having sex at half-time... in the stadium.
  • You have had sex at half-time... in the stadium.
  • You keep a football playbook in the bathroom.
  • Your definition of "getting lucky" is seats on the fifty-yard line.
  • Your other definition of "getting lucky" is finding a football ticket in your wife's jeans.
  • In preparation for a romantic evening you put on a football helmet and ask your wife to wear a cheerleader outfit.

A Packers football fan and his wife were talking...

    Wife: You love the Packers more than me.

    Fan: You're absolutely right dear, but I DO love you more than any other football team.

*** Innocently taken from various emails and various websites from... purely for your entertainment, of course. ***

Thirsty For A Draft... 

Here's some more mock drafts, a few interesting things, but mostly everyone is following the same theme. Packers need DT and DE/OLB for the new 3-4 defense being installed by new DC Dom Capers, and don't forget to pick up a Tackle somewhere along the way. Oh! Oh, the CB's are aging, so that means grab the best CB in the draft to the detriment of every other position. Yeah, it's the same stuff, but I find it interesting to glance over.

We'll see if these mock drafts have the Pack's number. Packers GM Ted Thompson is "known" for the taking the Best Player Available (BPA) and so that seems to doom us expectant Packer fans to the whims of every other team. One thing is for sure, almost no one has ever predicted accurately what the Packers draft will be in any mock draft I've seen over the years. This will most likely be the same this year. Besides, maybe the Pack will actually get another free agent to help out in any of the positions of need, thus effecting the Packers draft plans.

BeerKid - Always Pack 4 Life!


9.  B.J. Raji, DE, Boston College - The Packers are getting older in their secondary as well as along their defensive line. B.J. Raji worked out really well and dominated in the senior bowl. Raji has easily shown he is the best DT/NT in the 2009 NFL Draft. This 2009 NFL Mock Draft has the Packers helping their D-Line with this pick. Another choice here could be a solid defensive end.

41.  Evander Hood, DT, Missouri - The Packers don’t have a proven run stopping DT yet after drafting them in the past. So they try again here with Evander Hood a very good DT out of Mizzou.

73.  Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma - The Packers get a good Tackle to help Ryan Grant get moving again.

83.  Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut - The Packers continue to build a depleted defense for the 2009 NFL Season.

New NFL Draft

9.  Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State - Wells will fall to pick 9 for no reason other than needs. Wells is one of the most talented players in the draft and the Packers will make out well with this one.

Sports2Debate Staff

9.  Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - Because Dom Capers is now running the defense in Green Bay, the likely pick for this team will be to fill that 3-4 outside linebacker position that they currently lack. However, cornerback has been a huge need since Ahmad Carroll busted 4 years ago, and Al Harris and Charles Woodson only have one to two more years of great play left. Jenkins is probably a top 5 player in this draft, so to get him at 9 is a great value, and he fills a need for the Packers as they have no heir apparent to their aging vets at the position.

41.  William Beatty, OT, Connecticut - Both tackles need long-term replacements, and Beatty is a great value here.

NFL House

9.  B.J. Raji, DE, Boston College - Raji stock is rising unbelievably right now. Malcolm Jenkins was listed here before, and even if he was still available I think the Packers should still go with the DT. They need major upgrades along their defensive line, and with the Packers going to the 3-4, Raji would be pefect to clog the middle.

Draft News

9.  Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - This draft spot is a tough call. Recently we found that the Packers will be moving to a 3-4 under Dom Capers as the new DC. First instinct is to stick B.J. Raji in here who had a superb Senior Bowl week. Could even throw in a LB or DE. Word is they are not going to make the jump right away, it will be gradual based on talent. Either way, CB still needs to be addressed and Jenkins is the man at that position.

Football Jabber

9.  Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas - The defense needs some tweaking in a few areas, and one of those areas is the defensive line. Taking a page from the Browns’ book above, Green Bay grabs the best defensive lineman available in Orakpo. He should help balance the line on the other side of Aaron Kampman.

The Hazean

9.  Everette Brown, DE/OLB, Florida State - The Packers have swithced to a 3-4 but don't have a guy who will be that pass rushing OLB/DE demon. Looks like they have him now.

41.  DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt - A terrible combine causes Moore to fall, but he could end up still going in the first with a solid pro-day.

73.  Michael Bennett, DE, Texas A&M; - The Packers add another pice to the puzzle that is their new 3-4.

83.  Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane - Let's not forget the Packers offensive line needs work as well.


9.  Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - The Packers have announced that they will be switching to a 3-4 defense under new defensive coordinator Dom Capers. They will look to add the pieces such as a 0-technique NT and a pass-rushing OLB. With BJ Raji racing up the charts, he could be the pick here, but I think the Packers already have a couple guys that can play the NT in Pickett and Jolly. The might even be able to do something with underachieving Justin Harrell - not as a NT, but as a big 3-4 DE. With their D-Line set, they now can look to grab a pass-rushing OLB. Both Everette Brown and Aaron Maybin are on the board here, but with the recent news that DE Aaron Kampman will slide to OLB, they don't have to reach here. In this situation, the Packers usually stick to the BAP (Best available player) philosophy and GM Ted Thompson won't hesitate to pull the trigger on a guy like Malcolm Jenkins if he was on the board. Jenkins, winner of the Jim Thorpe Award, is a total package corner who can hit and tackle as well as cover and he will be ready to start should one of their aging CBs go down.

41.  Larry English, OLB, Northern Illinois - The Packers are switching to a 3-4 defense and grab a pass-rushing OLB here who will help improve their 20th ranked defense.

73.  Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina - The Packers had some protection problems in 2008 and will need an eventual replacement for Chad Clifton. They grab their LT of the future here in Jamon Meredith.

83.  Jason Phillips, OLB, Texas Christian - After moving Kampman to OLB, the Packers are looking pretty good at that position, but they will need to add tons of depth in this transition to the 3-4.

Draft Aces

Quoth Lombardi...

   "Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling."

Saturday, February 21, 2009

Stupidest Quote Of The Week... 

Good Lord!!! TT's above quote comes from a Bob McGinn article over at JSOnline.Com - Pick hard to predict at No. 9 - and Buhjeezus H. Christos, what is wrong with our GM. A quality pick at No. 9 in the draft, and TT wouldn't mind if he sat on the bench for several years... like another 1st round pick of his - DT Justin Harrell, and oh yeah, his 1st draft pick ever, QB Aaron Rodgers did the same thing, ride the bench for years. To put it differently, the Packers GM believes so much in his awesome power of picking "diamond in the rough" starting players in later rounds, that he could care less if a 1st rounder doesn't make it on to the field to even play, for years apparently.

So Ted Thompson, we thank you (not really) for being Packer Palace's Stupidest Quote Of The Week winner!

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!

Monday, February 16, 2009

Spew Off Speak Out... 

Just to elaborate on something that Regarding Draft had brought up down below, with it being close to rumored fact, that Packers GM Ted Thompson is some kind of late-round guru when it comes to drafting. Doesn't come across that way once you start looking at his four drafts, when you start looking specifically at his 5th, 6th and his beloved 7th round picks.

Ted Thompson's 5th, 6th, and 7th round draft picks
Junius Coston - G/C
Mike Hawkins - CB
Mike Montgomery - DE
Craig Bragg - WR
Kurt Campbell - LB
Will Whitticker - G
*5th & 6th to KC for R-Cal Truluck - DE
Ingle Martin - QB
Tony Moll - G/T
Johnny Jolly - DT
Tyrone Culver - S
Dave Tollefson - DE
David Clowney - WR
Korey Hall - LB
Desmond Bishop - LB
Mason Crosby - K
DeShawn Wynn - RB
Clark Harris - TE
Breno Giacomini - T
Matt Flynn - QB
Brett Swain - WR
6th to NYG for Ryan Grant - RB

Johnny Jolly, Mason Crosby, Michael Montgomery, Deshawn Wynn, Matt Flynn, Desmond Bishop, Korey Hall and Tony Moll. Throw out drafting K Mason Crosby, almost any Kicker you take late in the draft is automatic for a starting position. That leaves you with DT Johnny Jolly and the trade for RB Ryan Grant. Everyone else falls into the decent but not a starter category. The switch from a 4-3 defense alignment to the 3-4 bodes well for MLB Desmond Bishop getting more playing time, but leaves big question marks for the whole defensive line.

Special notes on G Will Whitticker who started as a rookie, and then the switch to the Zone Blocking System resulted in him being eventually released. *Who the hell is R-Cal Truluck and why did the Pack spend 2 draft picks for him? That might have been GM Mike Sherman's doing before Ted Thompson was hired that Spring, perhaps that was the final straw which triggered Sherman's departure as Packers GM.

So back to Thompson, not much there for a GM whose reputation is based on his late round drafting skills... although some credit can be thrown TT's way for picking up TE Donald Lee, CB Tramon Williams, S Atari Bigby, DB Jarret Bush, S Charlie Peprah, DE Jason Hunter, WR Ruvell Martin and RB Kregg Lumpkin, all contributing players, who were either all late-rounders or undrafted themselves. Again, All I will say is that the Packers need some quality draft picks this year. The Pack have moved beyond needing solid depth behind the starters, so they should let the late round bargain blow-out drafting to the other NFL teams.

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!


If favre plays decides to go with the queens that will cement in my mind that the world is truly only money driven and that sportsmanship has died with John Wayne and the Chevelle RS so kill my dream dude, just kill it that the last real dude sold out and if you do dude......I hope Atari Bigby knocks your dick in tha dirt bitch!

Big Ern Said so!!!!

Hey TT, There is a somewhat capable guy named Julius Pepper looking to play some olb in a 3-4 d. Have you thought about it? With Peppers and Kampen as book ends the quarterbacks in the NFL would be like frightened children running and crying for their mommies!

Big Daddy Lee

Hey Big Daddy, yes that would be frightening to opposing teams with Peppers and Kampen as bookends, or coming off the same edge. Carolina can still franchise tag him even if he wants to leave.  BK

julius peppers wants out and wants to play a 3-4 defense tt should not be a cheap-ass loser and get him. Brett Favre goes down in history as the greatest


Hey Andy, will Peppers want to play for Capers, or for his former d-coordinator and our new d-line coach Trgovac... I still think the Panthers would be totally stupid not to franchise tag him and/or adjust their d-philosophy to take advantage of all of Peppers strengths.  BK

Unless something has changed about TT's strategy, don't you mean we will have a chance to get 13 or more of the top 201 prospects? What's the over/under on how many picks will be traded for more picks? Of course, I say that, but looking at the draft history - there are a lot of names on there that are doing quite well. Jordy Nelson sticks out. No idea why - but I love that guy.

Regarding Draft...

Hey RD, quit raising the hairs on the back of my neck with those "wild conspiracy stories" concerning TT and getting/trading for seven 7th round draft picks... it keeps me up at night. Of course TT will be sneaky, seeing that he already has lost one 7th round pick next year (to the Jets) and has only one 7th round this year, he'll go for trading 6th rounders, that then, can be traded down for more 7th rounders... personally, I'm so far past the quantity drafts that I would like to have some quality draft picks this year... let's keep going here on TT's drafts, late round picks that can be qualified as great picks in hindsight - Johnny Jolly, Mason Crosby, Michael Montgomery, Matt Flynn, Desmond Bishop, Korey Hall. A thin list with only Jolly and Crosby developing as true starters so far, Bishop maybe soon, Hall lost his starting job to Kuhn (a true FB). Let's concentrate on quality players in the early rounds of the draft this year would be my suggestion for TT.  BK

Politics at PACKER PALACE !??! Leapin' Lombardi, we don't need that bull in here, do we BeerKid? Tell 'em to go turn on Fox News or something.


Hey Lemondrop, ha-ha not anymore... but if anyone desires the top 10 or so political news websites I do visit... send an email to me.  BK

"Once you've picked a team they've got you." For all of you freaks into the FROSTING LAYER called Politics. I'd argue you should read this little book to get a glimpse of the CAKE:

Oh, and you might as well go ahead and read up on a certain U.S. base in Australia to track those U.S. tax dollars too:

This was expensive too:


ps- Lemondrop, BeerKid reminds me that you started all this Politico stuff with your Inaugural gigapixel photo post!


...and maybe most of you thought I was joking when I said I would be the barrel-shaped (I'm not really pear-shaped) man with beer in hand running away screaming...  BK

Quoth Lombardi...

   "It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you've got to have is faith and discipline when you're not yet a winner."

Sunday, February 15, 2009

You Might Live In Wisconsin... 

...If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 18 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping that the food will swim by.

...If you have worn shorts and a parka at the same time.

...If you have had a lengthy telephone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number.

...If you think that ketchup is a little too spicy.

...If your town has an equal number of bars and churches.

...If every time you see moonlight on a lake, you think of a dancing bear, and you sing gently, "From the land of sky-blue waters".

Jeff Foxworthy

You Know You're From Wisconsin When...

...You think of the major food groups as beer, fish and venison.

...You carry jumper cables in your car and your girlfriend knows how to use them.

...You find 0 degrees "a little chilly."

...You can drive 65 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard, with-out flinching.

...A "brat" is something you eat.

...You refer to the Packers as "We."

...You were unaware that there is a legal drinking age.

*** Encore posts from March '04 with our thanks to Jeff Foxworthy and that email that keeps coming around... there's more here - Joke Archives Page 1 and Page 2.

Saturday, February 14, 2009

Happy Valentines Day... 

Friday, February 13, 2009

Quoth Lombardi... 

   "They call it coaching but it is teaching. You do not just tell them... you show them the reasons."

We've Been Nominated... 

    Dear BeerScout and Beerkid, It gives us great pleasure to tell you that for the second year in a row Packer Palace has been nominated for:

    The Titletown Award


    Best Packer Website Design 2009

    We have announced the nominees on our website.

    The Titletown Award is Cheesehead TV’s way of giving recognition and props to leaders in the World Wide Web of the Green Bay Packers. Winners will be announced Friday, February 27th 2009 at 1PM.

    Good luck!

    Corey Behnke
    Aaron Nagler
    Cheesehead TV

A humongous thanks to Corey and Aaron over at Cheesehead TV for selecting and nominating Packer Palace in their "Best Packer Website Design 2009" category of their now prestigious Titletown Awards. We are the returning and defending 2008 Titletown Champions for this category, and we do appreciate the recognition those guys try to heap on us every year. Thanks everyone! Go Pack!

BeerScout and BeerKid - Always Drunken Packer Fans 4 Life!

Thirsty For A Draft... 

Here's an approximate listing of the Green Bay Packers 2009 Draft Picks, well before any of the compensatory picks are awarded out to the teams, and before the final 7 round draft order is finally pegged down.
    Rd 1 - 9th overall
    Rd 2 - 41st
    Rd 3 - 73rd
    Rd 3 - 83rd (from the Jets)
    Rd 4 - 105th
    Rd 5 - 137th
    Rd 6 - 169th
    Rd 6 - 174th (from the Saints)
    Rd 7 - 201st
As Packer GM Ted Thompson is well known to like building his team through the draft, the Packers are sitting in decent shape with the Draft coming up, they have a chance to get 5 of the top 105 college players. It will add depth like it always does... but it's way past time to get something more, like wins, out of all these TT draft picks.

Here's some of the early Packer Mock Draft predictions from various sources around the web, nothing overly interesting, we all know the Packers are going to need specific Defensive Line help, Offensive Tackle help, and the other various positions that are always looking to be upgraded on any team.

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!


9.  Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State - After winning 13 games a year ago big things were expected of the Packers in 2008 and even though they failed to take that next step the future still looks bright. Regardless of what you might think of Ted Thompson and the way he handled the Brett Favre situation you can't help but be impressed with his Draft Day track record and he has assembled a nice core of young talent on both sides of the ball. Everette Brown | Florida State Seminoles However, one area that is of particular concern is the pass rush as Green Bay ranked near the bottom of the league in sacks last season. The Packers are moving to a 3-4 scheme under new Defensive Coordinator Dom Capers in 2009 and Everette Brown would be a perfect fit opposite Aaron Kampman at outside linebacker. A college defensive end who racked up 21.5 tackles for a loss and 13.5 sacks as a junior in 2008, Brown may not have the bulk to play with his hand down at the next level but he is a great athlete with excellent speed who should thrive in the 3-4. Some Packer fans will have reservations about Brown since Jamal Reynolds was such a huge bust and while Seminole defensive ends don't have a great track record in recent years you can't lump them all together. The Packers could also use some help at offensive tackle but the chance to bring in the #1 pass rusher in the draft is too good to pass up.

41.  Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina - Mark Tauscher is a free agent who probably won't be back while Chad Clifton is 32.

Scott Wright - Draft Countdown

9.  Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - I was surprised Jenkins didn't enter the 2008 NFL Draft, where he would have been a top 20 selection. Jenkins won the 2008 Jim Thorpe Award.

41.  Clay Mathews, DE, USC - A pass rushing terror that had a great year. His father played 13 years in the NFL as a linebacker. Has the size (6' 4" 252 lbs) to play in a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense.

NFL Draft Dog

9.  Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas - The Packers had problems rushing the passer last season so Orapko would help them out there.

Brian - NFL Draft Dog's_2009_Mock NFL_Draft.htm

9.  Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State - By hiring Don Capers and moving to the 3-4 defense you have an opportunity to add maybe the most important piece, a pass rusher. Brown has an amazing burst off the line and fits a huge need.

Brandon - NFL Draft Dog

9.  Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - The Pack generally go after the best player available and in this case that's Jenkins. This pick still fills a need as there are some age issues popping up among their CB.

Daryl - NFL Draft Dog's-2009-NFL-Mock-Draft.htm

9.  B.J. Raji, NT, Boston College - The Packers are moving Ryan Pickett over to nose tackle, but that doesn't mean that they'll pass on B.J. Raji. Pickett is untested in the 3-4, and he turns 30 in October. Plus, it's his contract year. Even if Pickett thrives at the nose and gets a new deal with the team, Raji proved at Boston College that he can move around on the defensive line in the 3-4 system. Raji is the best player available here, though other options include Everette Brown, Brian Orakpo and Malcolm Jenkins.

41.  Clint Sintim, DE/OLB, Virginia - The Packers need another 3-4 rush linebacker to complement Aaron Kampman. The team, already in need of someone else who can get to the quarterback, will take Clint Sintim, a possible late first-round prospect.

73.  Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina - With the injured Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher turning 33 and 32 in June, respectively, it's time for the Packers to start looking for some young blood at offensive tackle.

84.  Mark Parson, CB, Ohio - Charles Woodson's days at corner are numbered. He turns 33 in October, so he'll have to make the full-time move to safety eventually. The Packers, who need depth at corner right now, will have to find a starter across from Tramon Williams sometime soon.

Walter Football

9.  B.J. Raji, NT, Boston College - If you could give a trophy to a player at the end of Senior Bowl week it would have gone to B.J. Raji. Raji, not only solidified himself as the top and premier tackle in the draft, but a top 12 draft pick. With so many teams such as Green Bay and Denver transitioning to a 3-4 defense, Raji's stock only seems to be rising as so many teams are in demand of a nosetackle to anchor their 3-4 system. Well with the Pack on the clock, they take Raji to do just that. Brian Orakpo is tempting as he would be an ideal OLB, however, for any 3-4 defense to be successful, you need a great nosetackle.

41.  Connor Barwin, DE/OLB, Cincinnati - The Packers got their NT in the first round, now they continue to build their 3-4 defense with a pass rushing specialist in Barwin. Barwin also could be the team's 3rd TE.

Michael Abromowitz - Draft Director, the Football Expert

9.  Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - Consider this: Charles Woodson is 32 and Al Harris (who suffered a ruptured spleen earlier this year) is 34. The Packers need youth at corner in a major way. Jenkins might have been a top 15 pick had he come out last year, but with another year of seasoning on the college level he looks like the clear top cornerback prospect.

Lou Pickney - Draft King

9.  Knowshon Moreno, HB, Georgia - Sure, Ryan Grant had a 1000 yard season but let's be honest he wasn't all that impressive. After a poor year the folks in Green Bay will want a return to the top of the NFC North and that means taking the pressure off Aaron Rodgers with a strong running game. Knowshon Moreno would be a weapon opposing defensive coordinators would have to plan for.

41.  Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest

73.  Marlon Favorite, DT, Louisiana State

84.  Will Beatty, OT, Connecticut

Consensus Draft Services

9.  Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State - With the switch to the 3-4 defense, Aaron Kampman appears to be the only man on the roster suitable to transition to 3-4 OLB. AJ Hawk will likely shift inside next to Nick Barnett. Everette Brown is a smooth, powerful athlete who fits perfectly as a 3-4 OLB. There may be some growing pains early, but this defense has tons of talent and potential.

J.R. Glymph - NFL Draft Blitz

9.  B.J. Raji, NT, Boston College - With the team switching to a 3-4, Raji is the Casey Hampton-like building block in the middle. A 3-4 outside linebacker is also a possibility but those types should be plentiful in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

41.  Clint Sintim, DE/OLB, Virginia

73.  Fenuki Tupou, OT, Oregon

84.  Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati

Chris Maier - NFL Draft 101

9.  Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - Yeah I hear you fans. The team has two great starting corners. Did you watch this defense getting gashed? Those starters are old and the NFL has become a league where your third corner can really make your defense better. They might jump on Orakpo, but in lieu of bolstering their pass rush with an end it is a good idea to cover up. Beyond that Jenkins is an outstanding value. He might not make it past Al Davis who collects cornerbacks like Jon Gruden collected quarterbacks in Tampa Bay.

41.  Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois - If you have not heard every team in the NFL will now be using the 3-4 defensive alignment. Well, not really, it just seems that way. The Packers will and the logical response is to add players who fit that system. English did not play for a BCS school, but managed to stand out in the MAC. He has long been considered a top prospect and it is certainly possible he winds up in the first round. Green Bay needs to start registering some sacks and keep quarterbacks from looking at their third and fourth reads every passing play.

Gregory Cox - Senior Writer, the Football Expert

9.  Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas - DE is a clear need as their pass rush was anemic last year and Ted Thompson wasted two picks on players he did not need instead of getting impact guys. Orakpo at nine is great value and a great fit. Hard worker and great motor. Those are things that Green Bay fans appreciate.

Jared Donnelly - Draft Analyst, the Football Expert

Quoth Lombardi...

   "Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the man who wins, is the man who thinks he can."

Something I Did Not Know... 

For the record books:  After the Green Bay Packers 31-21 win over the Detroit Lions at Lambeau Field to close out the 2008 season back on December 28th. The Elias Sports Bureau said that the Packers had become the first team in NFL history to have two 100-yard rushers (Ryan Grant 19-106yds and DeShawn Wynn 7-106yds) and two 100-yard receivers (Donald Driver 6-111yds and Greg Jennings 5-101yds) in a single game.

That was something I did not know...

Thursday, February 12, 2009

Brett Favre Retires... 

    Been There Done That, At Least 10 Times Now...

So with less than 10 days before the NY Jets need to be in salary cap compliance and rumored to be in serious cap trouble (compared to every other NFL team) the Jets and Brett Favre have announced his retirement and quickly followed up that with the signing of the papers to confirm it with the NFL Commissioner. The Jets have freed up 13 million in cap space.

The only thing that makes this possibly true this time, is the rumored arm injury that helped contribute to his 22TD 22INT season... but like many others, I won't be convinced he's retired until the 2010 season ends. There's always more to say, but it's pretty much water under the bridge now. Check out Bob Wolfley's (Sportsday) article - Favre reveals bitter truth over at JSOnline.Com, and Gene Wojciechowski's (ESPN.Com) - No Favre, less fun for NFL.

The Odd's are probably still favorable for Brett Favre to end up joining the Vikqueens this year, well, this year after taking the summer off again... to heal that injury of his, and oh, the day BF signs the papers for re-instatement... the Jets will have to put his 13 million back on the salary cap. Then we'll see if they keep him or release him.

BeerKid - Always Pack 4 Life!


I think a good way for Brett and TT to come to peace would be for Brett to sit next to TT thru ALL his working hours in the next 2 months, (how you like those 18 hour days Brett?) and see exactly what TT's job entails. Finally Brett may come to some respect for any GM's position, even as regards one of the games all time greats, finally a realization that his job was to be QB. TT was very well within his rights as GM to make his first order of business to get a guy who could be Bretts replacement when he was 35. It is the GM's job to be pragmatic, not emotional, it is his head on the line. I am still waiting for the evidence that even in small part makes TT and McCarthy guilty,I wish the reverse were true given a nasty choice, BUT ITS NOT.

If Brett plays for the Vikes what is currently a damaged legend will become ruined in my eyes and I would vote to bring the ghost of an enraged Nitschke on his ass. You know what your first order of business should be there Lorenzo? Make nice with your replacement, who you have not had the decency to say THE FIRST WORD TO since you left. I know he's 'no Brett Favre" but then, he ain't tryin to be. Without the Green Bay Packers son, your career may well have been very short indeed. Anybody remember his first coach, the loud mouthed good ol boy who would leave a freakin ticket for bloody Elvis, how bout given it to an inner city kid, never saw Elvis at a football game anyway. Enough with Elvis anyway, and Brett, DON'T MAKE ME say the same about you.


Hey BeerKid.......... You'd hang around and talk politics if there was free beer, I'd bet!!! Anywho..... the Packer news was slow and the slime has been oozing, so why not talk a little politics when things get slow. You don't keep an eye on these guys and try to keep them honest........... they'll steal your beer allowance money right from you!!!!! Looking forward to the season!

Long Live the Pack!!!

Hey Long Live the Pack, you are correct, I would show up the free beer and then be the one running away with beers in both hands, just to clarify...  BK

I will believe none of Favre's retirement talk until week 1 of the 2009 season when the 32 starting QBs trot out. If he is not one of the 32, his consecutive starts streak is dead. Then and only then will I believe he is retired.

I can see Brett this summer, showing up for Jets training camp, thereby his $13 mil back onto the Jets payroll and counting against their cap. At that point, they will basically have their roster set, and they will HAVE to release him because they won't have the cap space. Then he trots right over to Minnesota. Bet on it.


Hey Ruppert, I'll be convinced BF is retired when the 2010 season concludes... I believe the moment he feels healthy (end of July) he's going to want to play this year.   BK

well well well! It seems "Desperation" is truly a stinky cologne. RETIRE then girlfriend, cuz I already forgot b'out you!!!Like that 1978 Ford Fairmont, you were good while you lasted..... see you at your "Hall O'Fame" and Danka for the many wins now BUGGER OFF!!!!

Big Ern said so!!!!

This approach by Thompson has to end. I was hoping after the quality coaches that were canned this year for 1-2 years of poor performance Thompson might wake up. But based on recent comments it looks like we get more of the same in the off season.

Thompson doesn't think the Packers need to add veterans to fill what is a perceived leadership void...and don't expect him to go hog wild in free agency. But a signing maybe not of Charles Woodson's status, but more on the line of Ryan Pickett's deal a few years back? That's possible.

Heal Packer Nation - fire Ted Thompson.


Hey Camp, from reading that Wolfey article it sounds like TT and BF will never get along, even 5 years from now... but it's the same BF, his animosity towards the Pack is over players not taken, coaches not hired, BF should have just concentrated on making the offense better with his leadership and play.  BK

As a lifelong Packer fan transplanted to Houston, I am not too excited about Dom Capers running the offense. I suffered for 5 years watching on the sidelines of the Texans with the same deer in the headlights look the MM usually has by the fourth quarter. I think the 3-4 will be an improvement and Kevin Greene should be able to get the LB's fired up. Hoping for big things from the Pack next year.

Pack Fan in Texas

Hey PF in Texas, I think most Packers fans are excited because Capers is more likely to better than former coordinator Bob Sanders, although when one reads up more on Dom they find his 3-4 isn't all that aggressive...  BK

Packer Management sucks and will destroy the Pack. Go Brewers.

Northern Exposure

Hey NE, Brewers??? Months away my friend... Now the Bucks are clinging to that 8th seed... Go Bucks!  BK

I can’t understand how to add your site in my rss reader. Help me, please


Hey Nic, why adding yourself to our RSS feed is easy as 1-2-3. First just click on the RSS Feed button at the bottom of the page. Second choose what application you prefer to use (personally I use my Mail App) and third, you'll find out that we don't really update all that much, even when Packer games are being played. It's easy... BK

Hey BeerKid............ This isn't Packer related, but after today's plan annoucement for the economy, Washington D.C., CEO's/exec's, and Wallstreet proved they're all a bunch of slimy bastards!!!! "Thick as thieves". We've got a bunch of guys with MBA's that are just fucking dumber than a rock!!! Instead of fixing the problem from the top down they keep throwing a little money at the bottom. Obama should issue an executive order to have all these geniuses executed and start over with a new bunch. The next guy might value his life more than greed.

Long Live the Pack!!!

Hey LLtP, I agree for the most part...  BK

Wow!! I took a few weeks off from the Palace only to find it has become a political website. Yea, I'm impressed by the insight that Capitalism is bad and big government is good. I don't think I'll start my 100 page essay yet either.

I will remind all of a great Thomas Jefferson quote that should be listened to by our current administration and all those that follow like sheep.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

Live and die with the PACK!!


Hey Camp, now if you and BeerScout and Long Live the Pack are in the same room talking Politics... I'll be the one sprinting away and setting the "pear-shaped man breaks 100meters in under 8 seconds" record (with beer in hand).  BK

Quoth Lombardi...

   "Leadership is based on a spiritual quality; the power to inspire, the power to inspire others to follow."
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