Sunday, September 11, 2005

Packer Palace Predicts... 

Sunday, July 24, 2005 - Now that the dog end of an offseason gone by has finally come to it's conclusion, and with the start of Training Camp, we can finally shut away the sound of those horns baying in the distance that had plagued us for weeks and weeks.  It's July, it's summer, we're drinking, and that means we've started to gaze drunkenly into our crystall ball again.  Its a bit blurry but it sure looks familiar.

The questions for this year's Packers are almost the same questions as last year.  Did the Packers Defense improve, even a little bit?  Besides new Defense Coordinator Jim Bates, Uh, No it hasn't.  Will the Offense still be able to run up some points to win games?  With 2 new Guards and Javon holding out, its still a Yes.  Will we be raging alcoholics, wedded to the Blitz bottle, by the time the Packers 2005 Season is over?  Practically guaranteed!  With all that in mind, and toss in what's been revealed to us from a season yet to be played, its seems the Packer's lucky number this year is going to be 11.

 

Packers  11-5
Vikings  10-6
Lions  8-8
Bears  5-11

Yes!  We can see 11 wins for the Packers this year.  The NFC North Division Crown for the 4th year in a row.  A home game again for the Playoffs.  Despite all the problems every one else likes to point out, we still see the Packers kicking some NFC North Ass again this year!  Simple as that.  We're Pack 4 Life!


Tell us where we're wrong:




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Final Update: September 11 - Times Up!!!  It's pre-game Sunday morning, Packers are going to visit the Lions at Ford Field today for victory number 1 in this upcoming season.  Lots of Lions fans jumping in with their 2 cents worth.  After reading what was sent in its not worth even that 2 cents one might say, but whether we're wearing our cheeseheads or not, our math is always accurate, our head's are always clear (except when we're drinking), the Packers are going to win 11 games this year, enough to finish 1st in the NFC North Division.  Everyone else, just like Satan, queue up in line behind us. 

Hey "FischInMIch", the Lions are 48 year old Virgins because they haven't won a Championship since 1957, and technically, they have never won a Super Bowl.  We stand by our calculations.  Lions are pushing 5 decades since they last joined the big dance.  Errh, that's technically worse off than the Vikings.

We're Pack 4 Life!
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We'll first of all you wear cheese on your head, I'm sure it's to keep all that beer your brain is floating in warm. Second, picking on the Lions is kinda like picking on the handicapped. Finally, Favre's game streak will end this year along with his career due to a terrible offensive line. He will then retire and cruise the country in the MaddenCruiser as John Maddens personal ball washer...we in Detroit will stand and salute as your team desends back into the obscurity of the late 70's and 80's were it belongs. Lots of Love Lions Fans. Vikes 11-5, Lions 10-6, Pack 7-9, bears ha ha ha
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I can't tell you where you are wrong, because you are 100% right. I am hoping that Mr. Sharper play is so good this year he receives his walking papers at the end of the year. Can't stand the guy.
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Hello Mr Bill Tremblay, I wanted to tell you myself that we are coming to kick your lions ass.  I will see you at the city.
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Green bay Blows...
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You bunch of losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's see what happens on Sept. 11th. 2005! Quit living in the past! Brett Favre is old and he shaves his legs. How gay is that?

Nice having a sister that was in a drive by shooting. I heard they do each other, just like all those hicks.

Green Bay SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!!!! GO LIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fontes RULES!!!!!
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     submitted by James M.
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Cute little edition of the Lodge this week ... and I even laughed, occasionally ... but perhaps math wasn't your strongest subject in school?

How typical of an illiterate Wisconsonite hick. You mention Detroit's last championship, but joke that it not being a Super Bowl was a "stupid technicality"... then go on to call them "48 year Super Bowl Virgins".

Super Bowl 40 is scheduled for 2006. Where did the other 8 Super Bowls go?  No less... funny... but accuracy is a vital part of smack.

Good luck on Sunday... and may both teams escape without injury.

"FischInMich"
http://www.thelionsfanatics.com
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Update: August 31 - It's the night before the last pre-season game and everything's starting to jell into place.  We the fans, need just a decent game against the Titans by both the Offense and Defense to give us a bit of hope going into this year.  You're not supposed to judge a team by its preseason, so... we won't.  Screw that!!!  So far the Packers have lived up to every out-of-state prediction that's been presented.  Lack of inspiring play by Guards, Safeties, Corners, Linebackers, D-Linemen, even Brett.  But its time for a reversal of fortune, and with us, nothing ever changes.  11-5 for the Pack, NFC North for the 4th year in a row.  We're Pack 4 Life!
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maybe 8-10 wins
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This site rocks!  You're turning me into a Packer fan...  but that's better than a saddlebag full of rattlesnakes!!
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you're definitely thinking with your heart and not your head.  I would love for you to be right.  If we win 8 games we'll be lucky.  Unless of course, Bates hasn't shown the true defensive scheme...  GO PACK GO!!!
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I'm a Packer faithful from St. Louis.  With my Show-Me mentality, I'm having a tough time being ultra-positive about the upcoming season.  I say Packers 10-6 at best.  That may be enough to win the North or at least qualify as Wild Card.
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everywgere, everywhere retard
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your wrong don't get me wrong I love the PACK but lets be honest with ourselves the Vikings are going to be at least 12-4.
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Hey Im a Packer faithfull trying to plug his website.  For everything you need to know about the packers and the whole NFL of course go to packerpalace.com first, but then you can check out my site LombardiLockdown.com.  Thanks and oh yah I predict and 11-5 season for the Green and Gold.
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Vikings win division not Packers...
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Packers prediction pretty accurate, assuming that number 4 fellow does not get injured

5 wins 1 loss vs North Division
6 wins 4 losses vs non conference

Packer Cricket
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Update: August 26 - The NFC North is ripe for taking by the returning champs - The Packers.  Coaching will get our defense to play better than last year's, we've all heard by now how ex-coach Slowik changed his defense after a few games which left the players confused, so with new coach Bates that will be enough for the Packers to get one more win than last years record 10-6, that's 11 wins this and the NFC North 4 times running.  In comes a prediction of 11 wins for the Vikqueens, very optimistic of you, we expect them to have a rough year (gasp! Choke! Choke!) w/o Moss to toss the ball too, we were going to revise their win total down to 8, but Culpepper will run for 600 yards or something, so we'll leave them at 10 wins this year, 2nd in the NFC North and probably a wild-card playoff entry, and we're never wrong, we just keep running out of time to get things right...  We're Pack 4 Life!
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I'm Sick of the Critics saying the Pack can't take this division and make the playoffs I mean c'mon were in a division with the choke artist Vikings, the Bears couldn't move the ball if there lives depended on it and the Lions can't win in General.  Thanks, GO PACK
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The Vikings will continue to choke...  the Lions still have Joey Harrington...  and the Bears still suck! 

Packers 12-4, 4X NFC North Champions!
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Your Wrong
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I can see the Pack going 9-7 and maybe get in the playoffs as a Wild Card but this is the year that the Vikings will win the NFC North (I say 11-5) and if the "D" shows up will be World Champions.  SKOL VIKES!!!!
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Update: August 18 - Another week, another prediction for NFC North Champions 4 years in a row.  Nothing new there, that has been scribbled all over our walls all summer long.  And from one Cheesehead to many others, we have noticed that Brett has been a little erratic on his deep throws, they always come up a little short, even on that great adjustment catch for a TD by Donald Driver last week against the Chargers, that just might have been another one of those under thrown balls.  But 1st preseason games are just that, preseason games, now we'll hope that Brett's off-season condtioning will help out his long-ball accuracy.  It's going to be needed this year if the Pack have any hope of going deep into the Playoffs.  Stretch the field!  We're still Pack 4 Life!
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I believe that we will win the division and that we will go 11-5 or even 12-4.  GO PACK...  PACK 4 LIFE
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I always have I hopes for the pack, but with an Aging favre, making some bad decision (I'm sure you remember those home run ball interceptions last year), bad defense, and sherman in his last year, I dont see the pack doing that good, maybe 8-8
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"I love Rex Grossman" hehehe......
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You're absolutely wrong!  The Packers are going to win 12 games this year!  From one cheesehead to another, GO PACK GO!!!
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Update: August 12 - Ugly is as Ugly does.. The Pack win 10-7 on Longwell's 53yd FG with a new holder (and 3 missed FG's by the Bolts) in the on again off again rain.  Not many bright spots, a great adjustment by Donald Driver on Brett Favre pass for the Pack's only TD.  Maybe Mike Montgomery can play after all.  Maybe Nick Collins can play too, after all, he did get his hands on the ball when it was thrown right to him, not a guaranteed thing when your talking the Packers secondary.  We too would like to see Brett Favre end his career with a Super Bowl win in Detroit on the Lions turf.  Will our Defense support such a run?  We expect it.  Don't you?  Lots of questions to be answered this year.  We can help...  We're Pack 4 Life!
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Ok, let me tell you, I am a true Packer fan like the rest of everyone else here, but, as much as I love the Packers, they best they will do is 8-8, but more likely go 6-10 or 7-9.  They probably will miss the playoffs, and as much as I hate the Vikes, they will win the NFC North...  But hey, that doesn't mean I'm abandoning the Pack, cause I'm Pack 4 Life!
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Brett's final season, 16-0, celebrate championship #13 on the Lions' home field.  Hell Yeah!  Go Packers!
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It is inevitable.  Face the unpleasant truth.  Our beloved Packers are in a stage of "moderate decline" and have no chance of going to the super bowl and winning 9 games should be applauded.  We have been on top or near the top longer than expected.  The party cant last forever and won't.  Brett will eventually slow down.  Green will eventually rush for less than 1000 yards.  Our defense will eventually get manhandled.  The eventually is upon us.  This is a sad truth, but all of us can look forward to rebuilding and getting back to the top with new favorite players, coaches, etc.  I love this team and will forever!!!!!!!!!
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Update: August 9 - Well the season must be getting close, the national pundits are claiming that the Packers looked awful this last week in the scrimmage against the Bills, well they did, but hey, its early, we love being underdogs, we're just laying down our bait right in front of them.  There's nothing optimistic about it, we're sticking with 11-5, NFC North 1st Place.  We're Pack 4 Life!
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God I wish I could be that optimistic.  But with too many unanswered questions, I'm going 9-7 and a wildcard berth only because Brett wins 3 by himself.  Long live #4!
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Update: August 3 - Its starting to become one of my daily routines, and that is going to Packer Net's WDUZ The Fan re-broadcast radio show listings.  For those of us who are not there to watch the Packers Training Camp in person, its a great way to catch up on some of the activity and chatter thats currently happening. 
It always takes a physically and emotionally healthy team to do anything in the NFL Playoffs, just witness the Packers effort last year, WR's struggling to stay healthy, a Defense that looked shattered half the time, and it resulted in a 1st round home playoff loss to the Vikings, who have always sucked, but is it time to finally recognize that saying "The Bears Still Suck" is no longer a derogatory term, because its now a fact... We're Cheeseheads for Life, We're Pack 4 Life!
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WE AIN'T.....
GOIN' NOWHERE...
WE AIN'T GOIN' NOWHERE....
CAUSE WE'RE CHEEZEHEADS FOR LIFE!
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Your not wrong, your right and the Vikings suck.
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A physically and emotionally healthier Favre and Walker back... its going to be a 3-way "dog-fight" to the end between the PACK, Queens, and Lions... its up to the Defense!  Go Pack.  Schrades
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Your not except for the fact that if Bates is as good as billed, and Javon Walker and ole Grady Jackson will come and play hard, these young corners improve just slightly 13-3... Green and Gold Forever... in FARVE we trust...
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Update: July 30 - If the Bears can beat the Packers so bad that it counts as 2 losses, heh heh eh, be sure to email us a pic of you partying in victory - we'll post it here, if it happens, otherwise you're going to look more like the guys on the right, LOL.  Leo breaks down what we're up against this year with our 1st place schedule and finally, we've been contacted by GOD!  We always knew we were on the Guest List.  May we be twice-blessed and injury free.  We're Pack 4 Life!
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bears will go 17-0 (they beat the packers so bad once it counts as 2) wins packers go 0-17 (they lose to the bears so bad they get 2 losses) vikings go 10-6 lions go 8-8.
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THE PACKERS WILL WIN THE DIVISION... I SHOULD KNOW... I CREATED THEM.

P.S.  I MAY EVEN THROW IN A SUPERBOWL... IF WALKER BEHAVES.  - GOD
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You give the Vikings too much credit.  They will improve to 9-7.  The Bears will be the best 5 and 11 team in the NFL.  My favorite Bear victory will be against the Vikings.

Despite a tougher schedule late in the season the Packers shine late in the year due to depth.  Young guys who don't get as hurt and learn from their earlier mistakes.  They drop an easy game early but go 3-1 in November baffling everyone.  Eleven is a good number.  Over half the games have a national audience.  Injuries as always have the greatest effect on the number of wins.  Bill Shipp
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Packers 11-5 my ass.  More like 12-4.
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High hopes offensively.  With any improvement defensively the Pack will dominate.  Bad coaching will keep the Bears and Vikes out of contention.  Keep an eye on the Lions, pieces are falling into place there.  GO PACK!!
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Javon is back, so add at least one more win.
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The thing is, Green Bay has a helluva tough stretch mid-season that could pretty much kill any hope for us. It starts out well, but coming out of the bye week, there's games @MIN, @CIN, vs. PIT, @ATL, vs. MIN again, and then to cap it all off, @PHI before playing some scrubs to finish off the year.  That stretch right there will make or break Green Bay, and unfortunately I see quite a lot of improvement in the division (Bears are looking a lot better than people give them credit for, but the Vikes' offseason acquisitions are all salary cap casualties, injury-prone or past their prime, with the exception of potentially talented LB Napoleon Harris).  It's difficult for me to be optimistic for anything better than 9-7 or so, and am pretty much banking on a strong finish and good seeding in the playoffs to do anything of note this year.

But then again the defense could be much better than everyone expects and with Favre making a push to retire while on top, anything could happen.  At least this isn't baseball or college sports, where we can pretty much expect the same ol', same ol' at the top.  Thus, yet another reason why football is the best sport in the world.  GO PACK!  - Leo
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Update: July 29 - Now that both Grady Jackson and Javon Walker have reported to Training Camp, everything is starting to fall into place.  We just hope that Javon doesn't pull a Sterling Sharpe and hold-out the saturday before the opening weekend game against the Lions.  We had enough trouble last year when Mike McKenzie finally reported and then basically pouted and whined the whole time.  It's hard to win championship's when you're players are focused on money.  We're Pack 4 Life!
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I definitely know that the Packs are not going 2 win division this year, I have no problems with the offense except for Farve getting 2 old but that is now fixed since Rodgers is here but I thought a big mistake was getting rid of Rivera, and Whale they're some of the best in the league and thats not going to help.  And geting rid of Darren Shaper biggest mistake I've ever seen defense is getting definitely worse! I actually think the Lions or Vikings are going to win division.  I think the Lions are going to have a really good team this year but it will be close.
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I couldn't agree with you more
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between 10 and 12 wins... im more confident now... now that JAVON HAS ENDED HIS HOLDOUT!!  PACKERS FAITHFUL REJOICE!
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I can't.
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Love the Pack, but.... I'm afraid the Walker holdout will be a downer and the Lions and Vikes will be improved.  WE screwed up in the off season and will pay for it this year and next.  The Lions will win the Divison and the Vikes will get in the Playoffs.  This will be Shermans' last year.
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Update: July 26 - Alright here we go, for those of you who missed it, you can see that we came close to calling it (with many others) last year - "We can see 12 wins for the Packers this year.  We can see winning those last 2 road games in Minnesota and Chicago.  We can see the Vikings coming to Green Bay in the early rounds of the Playoffs and losing 28-20." - 1st Place NFC North, 10 wins, won those 2 road games and hosted the Vikings at Lambeau in the 1st round of the NFL Playoffs.  We just forgot to predict that the Packers would have healthy WR's for the playoffs.  Now with this year's first responses, the Bears just don't impress me enough, let alone that QB Rex Grossman will make it through the year, he's limping now and I'm sure that knee will hurt every single day the rest of the year.  The Lions will be one of those weak 8-8 teams with Garcia playing QB, you know, after we spank them on ESPN, they'll win their last 3 games.  The Vikings may have gotten new players, questionable how much better but their coaches have gotten worse, plus No Moss!  We're still defending Divisional Champs until someone knocks us down.  Not this year.  We're Pack 4 Life!
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11 is correct
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Spot on brothers and sisters!
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Not far wrong, I think it will be a 10-6 season, already starting to have nightmares about Vick when we play the Falcons, with Jim Bates you know the defense will play harder.  One other thing that needs sorting out and that is Mike Sherman, give the guy 3 more years.
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It certainly is difficult to tell whether the Pack will have a great defense this year apart that I think it will be good.  Anything is an improvement.  I will say that Jim Bates did a hell of a job in Miami, considering the talent they had and also considering they beat the Pats on that last MNF game.  I am certainly impressed and welcome Mr. Bates to Green Bay.  That warped and sad defense we saw last year is hopefully a thing of the past.  Albeit, Mr. Carroll does need some refining and keeping his grubby paws from incurring yellow laundry on the field.  Truly, I look forward to the new and improved Pack defense.  Lord knows, we know how to put up points, but let's concentrate on preventing the teams (especially the other 3 NFC North) points!  THOSE BELONG TO GREEN BAY!!!!  Chris  DFW, TX  PACK4LIFE
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Bears will be better than 5 - 11... I still hate them though! Lions can not possibly win 8 games... no way.  Thanks,  Vic  Long Beach, CA
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Better.  How bout 12-4.  The rest of the division is weak.  We will run away with the NFC North as usual.  We seem to be the only team there.
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Wednesday, September 07, 2005

Almost God's Country Breakdown... 


Seems like since the admittedly ugly playoff loss to the (b-o-o-o-o, h-i-s-s-s-s) Vikings virtually everyone who makes a living analyzing the game we love has given up on the Packers as a serious threat to retain the NFC North title.  They rightly point out the high-profile defensive acquisitions made by the aforementioned Vikings, the continued progress by the Lions and the relative off-season inactivity by the Packers as evidence that this will be the year the team from Green Bay finally slides back to a Ray Rhodes-esque 8-8 record.  So, what else is new?  We've been hearing that for years now.
I don't see it that way.  Let's look at the season ahead by starting where we left off last regular season, 10-6, and go from there.

Head Coach Mike Sherman. Make note of what you just read, or, more importantly, what you didn't read:  "General Manager and Head Coach" Mike Sherman no longer exists.  (I swear he was saying "we" last year when discussing his take on the team, whereas this year he's saying "I").  Bob Harlan, the architect of all that is right in Titletown, revealed as he introduced new GM Ted Thompson that Sherman had been bothered to the point of distraction from game-planning by the Mike McKenzie situation. No longer having the GM responsibilities, and the incumbent headaches that go with them, will allow him to concentrate on his Head Coach responsibilities exclusively.  Since I believe the dual role cost the team at least one game last year I'm predicting the solitary role will result in at least one more win this year.  Result:  11-5.

Quarterback Brett Favre.  The off-season focus after he announced his return for the year was on his working with a trainer to get into shape for the year.  And in shape he got, arriving at training camp quite possibly in the best condition of his career. This is good since it will probably extend his career a year or two.  However, he will still throw a couple of I-can't-believe-he-did-that interceptions to offset the couple of I-can't-believe-he-did-that touchdowns.  So, status quo:  11-5.

Wide Receiver Robert Ferguson. While all the attention was diverted to Javon Walker, Ferguson quietly recovered from his season-ending neck injury, had laser eye surgery to correct near-blindness in one eye, and got himself into fantastic shape.  Having the equivalent of three starters at receiver results in one more win:  12-4.

Offensive Guards Adrian Klemm and Will Whittaker:  Whittaker is yet another seventh-round find ala Mark Tauscher and, before him, Adam Timmerman.  But, being a rookie, he will make mistakes.  Klemm seems to have found his spot if he can stay healthy, but will never equal Mike Wahle's athletic ability to pull to the opposite side.  Those issues and the general lack of cohesiveness on the line will result in at least one game lost by inability to run the ball:  11-5.

Defensive Coordinator Jim Bates.  For some reason he reminds me of the late Fritz Shurmer, and that has to be good.  If he has half the imagination Shurmer to get the most out of his players, albeit less talented than the stable Shurmer worked with, it will improve the overall defense to the tune of one more win:  12-4.

The Defense. So many things to consider.  Cletidus Hunt is still Cletidus Hunt.  That's bad.  Grady Jackson is still Grady Jackson.  That's good, when he's able to play.  Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila is still Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila.  That's good, but I'd like to see him produce in more meaningful situations.  Darren Sharper is still Darren Sharper, but he's no longer on the team.  That's good, since he has a prima donna attitude not supported by his performance.  Nick Collins looks to be an upgrade over Sharper, but he is a rookie.  That's bad.  (See Will Whittaker, above.)  The linebackers are made over.  That's... who knows?  Al Harris is still Al Harris. That's definitely good.  Ahmad Carroll is still Ahmad Carroll.  That's definitely bad, unless Joey Thomas unseats him as the starter as the season moves along.  Overall I see this unit too much like last year's, even with the personnel changes:  12-4

Special Teams.  Not much to talk about here. B.J. Sander is much improved, but that only puts him the company of last year�s stop-gap punter, Bryan Barker.  (Sander is lucky he won the place- kicking holder sweepstakes, or Ted Thompson might have looked for an available veteran.)  No other significant changes on the "third side of the ball":  12-4.

The Vikings:  I have said before that the Vikings will not be as improved on the field as they are on paper.  Having said that, I do see them improved enough to return to the home-and-away season-split pattern we have become accustomed to against our most dangerous rivals:  11-5.

That was a long way to go to come up with the same predicted record as you, Beer Kid, but it's nice to see that we agree.  I also see the Vikings improving on last season's 8-8 record, but only by two games:  10-6.

The Lions:  Are Still the Lions: 7-9.
The Bears:  Are still the Bad-Luck Bears: 6-10
Thanks for your time, and Go, Pack, Go!


Duane in Almost God's Country

Wednesday, August 17, 2005

Lombardi Quotes A Prediction... 

Tried to send this through your site (which rocks)... but it wouldn't go... so you get e-mail... Bryan.

Here is a compilation of observations and Lombardi quotes to prove my 12-4 hypothesis.
First Brett Favre looked good against San Diego.  He clearly has worked hard in the off season.  Lombardi: "Dictionary is the only place that success comes before work.  Hard work is the price we must pay for success.  I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." or "A man can be as great as he wants to be.  If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."Thank you Brett Favre.

I noticed Ahman fumbled against San Diego, nothing new there, but he made excuses... 'torrential rain'.  Ahman denying that he has a fumbling problem is like Rafael telling congress he doesn't do 'roids.  Ahman please fix the problem.  Lombardi: "It is time for us all to stand and cheer for the doer, the achiever - the one who recognizes the challenges and does something about it."

It was odd watching the Chargers Nate Keading miss the field goals, I felt sorry for him, and relieved to know we have Ryan Longwell on our team.  I hope he gets the Pro Bowl recognition he deserves.  How would Vince contrast Ryan and Nate?  Lombardi: "Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence."

OK, so the defense still has me concerned, but Jim Bates really can make a difference.  Lombardi: "Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate."  Besides the Packers have won the conference 3 times in a row.  Lombardi: "Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all time thing. You don't win once in a while, you don't do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time.  Winning is habit.  Unfortunately, so is losing."
Grady, and possibly Mr. Hunt, please reflect on these words from the great one:  "Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another."  Still don't understand Mr. Jackson, well then "If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm."

How ugly was TOs chat at half time?  If I pay him $20M to go away, would he... let's start a fund!  Although if he stays in Philly they are sure to lose (similar to Rand Moss in Queensland)  Lombardi: "Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work."  Seriously can we vote him off the island?

I really want to be a fan of Javon Walker.  Not that he asked from my advice, but I think his career and his character will be best served by dumping Drew Rosenhaus.  I hope he hires back Bus Cook, catches 100 balls and score 15 times, and gets a huge payday (and stays in Green Bay)

As for my favorite Lombardi quote it has to be: "I am the Fred Astaire of karate."

Finally, while it is possible that the Packers aren't the most talented team in the league, that doesn't mean they are destined to lose. Lombardi: "Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the man who wins, is the man who thinks he can."

Take back the Lombardi Trophy!

Bryan in Allen, TX USA

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